terrible fold?
i am pretty sure i had wwonka on this pot. but i had just lost in ftops w/ K high flush to A high flush, and was steaming a bit (yes, i'm trying not to tilt, but omg, it's hard given the total DONK who took me out of ftops -- he rivered a card earlier otherwise i would have stacked him!). in hindsight i def should have called cause a few hands later i'm almost out when i run AKs (on button) into AA (bb). niiiiice.
Full Tilt Poker Game #4103768952: The Mookie - Loretta Wynn (30733111), Table 11 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:58:24 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: whiskigrl (2,420)
Seat 2: AgSweep (2,185)
Seat 3: UnTiltable15 (4,150)
Seat 4: Schaubs (1,930)
Seat 5: cardgrrl (2,980)
Seat 6: wwonka69 (4,565)
Seat 7: Loretta8 (7,110), is sitting out
Seat 8: pvanharibo (5,185)
Seat 9: chrispy2005 (2,130)
chrispy2005 posts the small blind of 50
whiskigrl posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pvanharibo [Kd Qc]
AgSweep folds
Loretta8 has reconnected
UnTiltable15 folds
Loretta8 has returned
Schaubs has 15 seconds left to act
Schaubs folds
cardgrrl folds
wwonka69 has 15 seconds left to act
Loretta8: stupid comcast
Loretta8: wanted to c/r there
wwonka69 raises to 300
Loretta8 folds
pvanharibo calls 300
chrispy2005 folds
cardgrrl: I had 2 pair
whiskigrl calls 200
*** FLOP *** [7h Tc 8c]
cardgrrl: you?
whiskigrl checks
wwonka69 checks
pvanharibo checks
*** TURN *** [7h Tc 8c] [Ac]
Loretta8: yay comcast
whiskigrl checks
Loretta8: lol
cardgrrl: :)
wwonka69 has 15 seconds left to act
wwonka69 checks
pvanharibo checks
Loretta8: i had a pair and a straight draw
*** RIVER *** [7h Tc 8c Ac] [5c]
whiskigrl checks
wwonka69 has 15 seconds left to act
Loretta8: i run so good i would have hit though
wwonka69 bets 4,265, and is all in
pvanharibo has 15 seconds left to act
pvanharibo has requested TIME
cardgrrl: I run so bad I'd have never made my boat
pvanharibo folds
whiskigrl folds
Uncalled bet of 4,265 returned to wwonka69
wwonka69 mucks
wwonka69 wins the pot (950)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 950 | Rake 0
Board: [7h Tc 8c Ac 5c]
Seat 1: whiskigrl (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: AgSweep didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: UnTiltable15 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Schaubs didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: cardgrrl didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: wwonka69 collected (950), mucked
Seat 7: Loretta8 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: pvanharibo (button) folded on the River
Seat 9: chrispy2005 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #4103768952: The Mookie - Loretta Wynn (30733111), Table 11 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:58:24 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: whiskigrl (2,420)
Seat 2: AgSweep (2,185)
Seat 3: UnTiltable15 (4,150)
Seat 4: Schaubs (1,930)
Seat 5: cardgrrl (2,980)
Seat 6: wwonka69 (4,565)
Seat 7: Loretta8 (7,110), is sitting out
Seat 8: pvanharibo (5,185)
Seat 9: chrispy2005 (2,130)
chrispy2005 posts the small blind of 50
whiskigrl posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pvanharibo [Kd Qc]
AgSweep folds
Loretta8 has reconnected
UnTiltable15 folds
Loretta8 has returned
Schaubs has 15 seconds left to act
Schaubs folds
cardgrrl folds
wwonka69 has 15 seconds left to act
Loretta8: stupid comcast
Loretta8: wanted to c/r there
wwonka69 raises to 300
Loretta8 folds
pvanharibo calls 300
chrispy2005 folds
cardgrrl: I had 2 pair
whiskigrl calls 200
*** FLOP *** [7h Tc 8c]
cardgrrl: you?
whiskigrl checks
wwonka69 checks
pvanharibo checks
*** TURN *** [7h Tc 8c] [Ac]
Loretta8: yay comcast
whiskigrl checks
Loretta8: lol
cardgrrl: :)
wwonka69 has 15 seconds left to act
wwonka69 checks
pvanharibo checks
Loretta8: i had a pair and a straight draw
*** RIVER *** [7h Tc 8c Ac] [5c]
whiskigrl checks
wwonka69 has 15 seconds left to act
Loretta8: i run so good i would have hit though
wwonka69 bets 4,265, and is all in
pvanharibo has 15 seconds left to act
pvanharibo has requested TIME
cardgrrl: I run so bad I'd have never made my boat
pvanharibo folds
whiskigrl folds
Uncalled bet of 4,265 returned to wwonka69
wwonka69 mucks
wwonka69 wins the pot (950)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 950 | Rake 0
Board: [7h Tc 8c Ac 5c]
Seat 1: whiskigrl (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: AgSweep didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: UnTiltable15 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Schaubs didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: cardgrrl didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: wwonka69 collected (950), mucked
Seat 7: Loretta8 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: pvanharibo (button) folded on the River
Seat 9: chrispy2005 (small blind) folded before the Flop
posted by lj at 11:09 PM
9 Comments:
If I had to guess, I'm putting donka on a 9- or Jack-high flush, or a straight. The massive overbet on the river screams out like a missed checkraise on the turn. Either way I wouldn't lay down the second nuts in this spot for all the tea in China. If you got set up that badly in this spot, I say you just take it like a (wo)man and roll on to the next tournament.
Tough beat in the FTOPS. Unreal.
No way I'm folding that in a $11 blogger tournament.
Sorry about FTOPS.
You're right - bad fold.
If you aren't willing to showdown with the second nuts in an $11 tournament, what ARE you willing to showdown?
If I go out on that hand, I don't feel so bad. I think Hoy is right about his overbet.
That is such a tough spot. I probably let it go and pick a better spot. Cash game I insta-call. Tournament, I hate it but fold.
overbet for value? maybe? but I doubt it. I call.
Not to pour salt on your wound, but yes, I too would've called in this spot.
I make some decisions based on a judgement of how I'll feel about it in the morning regardless of the outcome... and calling and losing here I wouldn't lose sleep over, but folding and not knowing might keep me up at night... which would've lead me to a call.
Now, if this were in a bigger buyin event like one of the FTOPS, my decision might be different.
Donka?
Bad fold Maybe?
Now that I saw your hand I am shocked you folded. I have seen you make much worse calls without a seconds Thought.
LJ what do you think I had?
that u would laydown the 2nd nut flush?
Or Maybe I should just check to you and let you take it away right?
Like others have said, if I lose with that hand I'll live with it. Damn poker gods ...
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